Whistleblowers and Bigots
The whistleblower stuff first. I saw "The Fifth Estate" today. It's a bio-pic about Julian Assange, who continues to reside in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London as part of his claim of political asylum. It's not a great film but it isn't bad either. I just wish it had explored more of the background and real character of the main players in the drama that is WikiLeaks.
We know a little about Assange and his background. Unless you've read one of the two books that were used in the making of the film, both authored by people who were involved with the activities of WikiLeaks in the "early days", you can't glean a whole lot from what has been published about why Assange is the way he is today.
I understand his mania for transparency from large governments and corporate structures. But isn't it hypocritical of him to demand this, and provide a platform for the dissemination of "secret" information about such organizations and yet to refuse to conform to those standards himself? The claim that the people who do the work of WikiLeaks would be in "danger" if they were known to the public doesn't make a lot of sense. Once their identities were revealed, should something happen to them, the people whose secrets they have opened up to public view would be the immediate suspects.
It is quite easy when given complete anonymity to disclose secrets. Journalists have the right to protect their sources, up to a point. That's why "shield laws" exist. And a journalist has every right to refuse to identify a source, even if it means going to jail for contempt of court. When I was a working journalist cultivating sources, I was fully prepared to do that if the situation arose.
However I also happen to believe in the right of the accused to face their accuser and that's a delicate balance to achieve when dealing with what is being labeled as whistleblowing. When you swear an oath to not do something under penalty of law, and then you go ahead and do it anyway, you've earned the punishment you may get. That's what happened to Chelsea Manning. She broke the law, and then disclosed her own identity to someone other than the WikiLeaks people. They didn't reveal her as the leaker, she did it herself.
Whistleblowers who report things to the authorities deserve protection from retribution. Perhaps someday I'll find a way to understand the mania people have for being apologists for those who break one law in order to serve what they call a higher law. Why is it that it was wrong for Oliver North to do what he did, while it was heroic for Chelsea Manning to disclose classified information that put lives in danger?
* * *
More and more, the bigotry of at least some of the members of what is referred to as the "Tea Party" is coming to the forefront. Now members of that group are advocating that a class-action lawsuit be filed against homosexuality, just as a number of state attorney generals banded together to sue big tobacco.
The utter idiocy of such an idea goes beyond wanting to engage in a face palm. I'd much rather reach out and slap the people who advocate such an idea, at least verbally. Those who hide behind the cloak of religion, the radical right-wing evangelicals who claim that homosexuality is a sin can't answer a few simple questions. Like why, if God made homosexuality a mortal sin, why isn't that clearly laid out in the Bible? The passages they misinterpret to bolster their arguments don't say that.
However, adultery, which seems to be a favorite past-time of such people, is clearly identified in scripture as a sin. Oh, but that's alright, as they beg forgiveness when they sin. Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MXbR7EHWrQ
Of course, Minister Swaggart went out and used prostitutes again after this apology. Then he apologized again, and he continues to preach today. He might well be a member of the Tea Party.
What two consenting adults do with one another is no one else's business. So these clowns need to STFU.
* * *
Forty years ago today was the famous "Saturday Night Massacre" when President Nixon ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire the Watergate Special Prosecutor, Archibald Cox. Richardson resigned rather that do as ordered. Nixon then ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelhaus to fire Cox. He resigned as well, calling the decision to fire Cox "fundamentally wrong", at which point then Solicitor General Robert Bork became the acting Attorney General. Nixon ordered him to fire Cox and he did. The firing was later found to be illegal, but Cox didn't want his job back under any circumstance.
Bork then appointed Leon Jaworski as the new Special Prosecutor and ultimately President Nixon had to resign to avoid being successfully impeached. According to a book by Bork, Nixon promised him the next open seat on the Supreme Court. Nixon's resignation prevented that but Bork was nominated 15 years later by President Reagan.
I was wondering today if Bork had followed the lead of Richardson and Ruckelhaus and had resigned, if he would have ultimately gotten what he wanted; a seat on the Supreme Court. Probably not. Even if he hadn't been tarnished by the Saturday Night Massacre, his positions on civil rights and the right to privacy that was at the heart of the still new Roe v Wade decision would have almost certainly doomed his nomination.
* * *
Random Ponderings:
If you could go back and undo a major decision in your life that you didn't know would have such a great impact on you, would you? Would you not smoke that first cigarette that was the first step to lung cancer or other respiratory problems? Would you not have the unprotected sex that led to you becoming pregnant while still in high school, if you knew in advance that would happen?
How cool was it of Ellen to give a 22 year old single waitress a new big-screen TV and $10,000? The woman paid the nearly $30 tab for two military reservists she was waiting on at the restaurant where she worked. It was very, very cool of her to do that, and awesome that Ellen stepped up to help her.
Scripted television continues to suffer as NBC cancelled "Ironside" and "Welcome To The Family" last week. What will Fox do to replace "Glee" which has announced this will be its final season?
Mary Steenbergen is taking up music (she actually signed a deal with a music company). Good for her.
Is having an accident and being badly injured the way to end an impending divorce? For Ashley Judd it might be.
Ted Cruz blames everyone but himself for the fiasco in Washington, D.C. that was the government shutdown. Look in the mirror for the problem, Mister Senator.
Did Bill Clinton really screen "The Apostle" at the White House with Robert Duvall and Farah Fawcett in attendance? Right after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke? Yep.
Lionfish are invading? Well, at least the invasion is limited to the East Coast. So far.
So one of the moron Boy Scout leaders who pushed that rock over in the Goblin Valley National Park turns out to have filed a lawsuit last month, claiming injury and permanent disability from back injuries he suffered four years ago in an auto accident. Whoops. Bet you feel even dumber now than when your video first went viral.
How about we start tying CEO pay to the performance of the company and its stock? Then we can tie the big pay of major sports stars to their performance in the playoffs. If we were doing that, Prince Fielder would be giving the Detroit Tigers a big chunk of his $214 million contract back.
I won't watch new "Bones" episodes because they've gone way too far down the road of the Booth/Brennan relationship by marrying them to one another.
I realize it is October but looking at the weekend box office numbers makes it clear most of what's being released at this time of year just isn't going to do well. "Gravity" and "Captain Phillips" being the exceptions, holding onto the #1 and #2 spots they held last weekend.
* * *
This Date In History:
1548 – The city of Nuestra Señora de La Paz (Our Lady of Peace) is founded by Alonso de Mendoza by appointment of the king of Spain and Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V.
1572 – Relief of Goes, Cristóbal de Mondragón with 3000 soldiers of the Spanish Tercios, release the siege of the city.
1720 – Caribbean pirate Calico Jack is captured by the Royal Navy.
1740 – Maria Theresa takes the throne of Austria. France, Prussia, Bavaria and Saxony refuse to honour the Pragmatic Sanction and the War of the Austrian Succession begins.
1781 – Patent of Toleration, providing limited freedom of worship, is approved in Habsburg Monarchy.
1803 – The United States Senate ratifies the Louisiana Purchase.
1818 – The Convention of 1818 signed between the United States and the United Kingdom which, among other things, settled the Canada – United States border on the 49th parallel for most of its length.
1827 – Battle of Navarino – a combined Turkish and Egyptian armada is defeated by British, French, and Russian naval force in the port of Navarino in Pylos, Greece.
1873 – Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and Rutgers universities draft the first code of American football rules.
1883 – Peru and Chile sign the Treaty of Ancón, by which the Tarapacá province is ceded to the latter, bringing an end to Peru's involvement in the War of the Pacific.
1904 – Chile and Bolivia sign the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, delimiting the border between the two countries.
1910 – The hull of the RMS Olympic, sister-ship to the ill-fated RMS Titanic, is launched from the Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
1935 – The Long March ends.
1939 – Pope Pius XII publishes his first major encyclical entitled Summi Pontificatus.
1941 – World War II: Thousands of civilians in Kragujevac in German-occupied Serbia are killed in the Kragujevac massacre.
1943 – The cargo vessel Sinfra is attacked by Allied aircraft at Suda Bay, Crete, and sunk. 2,098 Italian prisoners of war drown with it.
1944 – The Soviet Army and Yugoslav Partisans liberate Belgrade, the capital of Yugoslavia
1944 – Liquid natural gas leaks from storage tanks in Cleveland, then explodes; the explosion and resulting fire level 30 blocks and kill 130.
1944 – General Douglas MacArthur fulfills his promise to return to the Philippines when he commands an Allied assault on the islands, reclaiming them from the Japanese during the Second World War.
1946 – Goverment of Democratic Republic of Vietnam decided that on 20/10 is Vietnam Women's Day
1947 – The House Un-American Activities Committee begins its investigation into Communist infiltration of Hollywood, resulting in a blacklist that prevents some from working in the industry for years.
1947 – United States of America and Pakistan establish diplomatic relations for the first time.
1951 – The "Johnny Bright Incident" occurs in Stillwater, Oklahoma
1952 – Governor Evelyn Baring declares a state of emergency in Kenya and begins arresting hundreds of suspected leaders of the Mau Mau Uprising, including Jomo Kenyatta, the future first President of Kenya.
1961 – The Soviet Union performs the first armed test of a submarine-launched ballistic missile, launching an R-13 from a Golf class submarine.
1962 – China launches simultaneous offensives in Ladakh and across the McMahon Line, beginning the Sino-Indian War.
1968 – Former First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy marries Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis.
1970 – Siad Barre declares Somalia a socialist state.
1971 – The Nepal Stock Exchange collapses.
1973 – "Saturday Night Massacre": President Richard Nixon fires U.S. Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus after they refuse to fire Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox, who is finally fired by Robert Bork.
1973 – The Sydney Opera House opens.
1976 – The ferry George Prince is struck by a ship while crossing the Mississippi River between Destrehan and Luling, Louisiana. Seventy-eight passengers and crew die and only 18 people aboard the ferry survive.
1977 – Lynyrd Skynyrd's plane crash.
1981 – Two police officers and an armored car guard are killed during an armed robbery in Rockland County, NY, carried out by members of the Black Liberation Army and Weather Underground.
1982 – During the UEFA Cup match between FC Spartak Moscow and HFC Haarlem, 66 people are crushed to death in the Luzhniki disaster.
1991 – The Oakland Hills firestorm kills 25 and destroys 3,469 homes and apartments, causing more than $2 billion in damage.
1991 – A 6.8 Mw earthquake strikes the Uttarkashi region of India, killing more than 1,000 people.
Famous Folk Born On This Date:
Christopher Wren
Timothy Ruggles
Bela Lugosi
Jelly Roll Morton
Arlene Francis
Art Buchwald (glad you won that lawsuit Mr. Buchwald)
Joyce Brothers
Mickey Mantle
William Christopher (I knew he was on M*A*S*H, but not that he was on Gomer Pyle, USMC)
Jerry Orbach
Robert Pinsky
Tom Petty
Al Greenwood
Melanie Mayron
Danny Boyle
Viggo Mortensen
Kamala Harris
William Zabka
Chavo Guerrero, Jr.
Michelle Malkin
Snoop Dogg
Dan Folger
John Krasinski
Movie quotes today come from the original "Karate Kid" movie because William Zabka was in it:
[they arrive at their new home]
Lucille Larusso: This is it. This is the end of the line.
Daniel: You're telling me.
#2
Daniel: Where am I, this ring over here?
Miyagi: Hai. Number three.
Daniel: What's that guy kneeling like that for?
Miyagi: Don't know.
Daniel: Don't you know anything you can tell me?
Miyagi: Hai. No get hit.
#3
[Daniel, Miyagi and Ali are trying to get onto the tournament floor together]
Official: Hold it!
Official: [to Ali] Sorry, teachers and students only.
Daniel: Oh, well, uh... he doesn't speak English and, uh, I can't understand his instructions without her. She's his, uh, translator.
Miyagi: [says something in Japanese]
Official: What did he say?
Ali: He says that, uh, you remind him of an uncle he has back in Tokyo.
Official: [smiles] I guess it's okay.
Miyagi: [says something in Japanese]
Official: What?
Ali: He says you're very kind.
Official: Thank you.
Miyagi: Welcome.
#4
Dutch: [Daniel is dressing into his gi when the Cobra gang walks into the locker room] Well, well, well, if it isn't our little friend Danielle. What's the matter? Your mommy isn't here to dress you?
[Daniel ignores him]
Dutch: Hey, I'm talking to you punk!
[Dutch shoves Daniel and Daniel puts his guard up]
Dutch: Come on, make a move! Come on! Right now!
Referee: [coming in] Hey! Save it for the fight! Now get out!
Dutch: [to Daniel] Points or no points, you're dead meat.
Referee: I said out!
We know a little about Assange and his background. Unless you've read one of the two books that were used in the making of the film, both authored by people who were involved with the activities of WikiLeaks in the "early days", you can't glean a whole lot from what has been published about why Assange is the way he is today.
I understand his mania for transparency from large governments and corporate structures. But isn't it hypocritical of him to demand this, and provide a platform for the dissemination of "secret" information about such organizations and yet to refuse to conform to those standards himself? The claim that the people who do the work of WikiLeaks would be in "danger" if they were known to the public doesn't make a lot of sense. Once their identities were revealed, should something happen to them, the people whose secrets they have opened up to public view would be the immediate suspects.
It is quite easy when given complete anonymity to disclose secrets. Journalists have the right to protect their sources, up to a point. That's why "shield laws" exist. And a journalist has every right to refuse to identify a source, even if it means going to jail for contempt of court. When I was a working journalist cultivating sources, I was fully prepared to do that if the situation arose.
However I also happen to believe in the right of the accused to face their accuser and that's a delicate balance to achieve when dealing with what is being labeled as whistleblowing. When you swear an oath to not do something under penalty of law, and then you go ahead and do it anyway, you've earned the punishment you may get. That's what happened to Chelsea Manning. She broke the law, and then disclosed her own identity to someone other than the WikiLeaks people. They didn't reveal her as the leaker, she did it herself.
Whistleblowers who report things to the authorities deserve protection from retribution. Perhaps someday I'll find a way to understand the mania people have for being apologists for those who break one law in order to serve what they call a higher law. Why is it that it was wrong for Oliver North to do what he did, while it was heroic for Chelsea Manning to disclose classified information that put lives in danger?
* * *
More and more, the bigotry of at least some of the members of what is referred to as the "Tea Party" is coming to the forefront. Now members of that group are advocating that a class-action lawsuit be filed against homosexuality, just as a number of state attorney generals banded together to sue big tobacco.
The utter idiocy of such an idea goes beyond wanting to engage in a face palm. I'd much rather reach out and slap the people who advocate such an idea, at least verbally. Those who hide behind the cloak of religion, the radical right-wing evangelicals who claim that homosexuality is a sin can't answer a few simple questions. Like why, if God made homosexuality a mortal sin, why isn't that clearly laid out in the Bible? The passages they misinterpret to bolster their arguments don't say that.
However, adultery, which seems to be a favorite past-time of such people, is clearly identified in scripture as a sin. Oh, but that's alright, as they beg forgiveness when they sin. Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MXbR7EHWrQ
Of course, Minister Swaggart went out and used prostitutes again after this apology. Then he apologized again, and he continues to preach today. He might well be a member of the Tea Party.
What two consenting adults do with one another is no one else's business. So these clowns need to STFU.
* * *
Forty years ago today was the famous "Saturday Night Massacre" when President Nixon ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire the Watergate Special Prosecutor, Archibald Cox. Richardson resigned rather that do as ordered. Nixon then ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelhaus to fire Cox. He resigned as well, calling the decision to fire Cox "fundamentally wrong", at which point then Solicitor General Robert Bork became the acting Attorney General. Nixon ordered him to fire Cox and he did. The firing was later found to be illegal, but Cox didn't want his job back under any circumstance.
Bork then appointed Leon Jaworski as the new Special Prosecutor and ultimately President Nixon had to resign to avoid being successfully impeached. According to a book by Bork, Nixon promised him the next open seat on the Supreme Court. Nixon's resignation prevented that but Bork was nominated 15 years later by President Reagan.
I was wondering today if Bork had followed the lead of Richardson and Ruckelhaus and had resigned, if he would have ultimately gotten what he wanted; a seat on the Supreme Court. Probably not. Even if he hadn't been tarnished by the Saturday Night Massacre, his positions on civil rights and the right to privacy that was at the heart of the still new Roe v Wade decision would have almost certainly doomed his nomination.
* * *
Random Ponderings:
If you could go back and undo a major decision in your life that you didn't know would have such a great impact on you, would you? Would you not smoke that first cigarette that was the first step to lung cancer or other respiratory problems? Would you not have the unprotected sex that led to you becoming pregnant while still in high school, if you knew in advance that would happen?
How cool was it of Ellen to give a 22 year old single waitress a new big-screen TV and $10,000? The woman paid the nearly $30 tab for two military reservists she was waiting on at the restaurant where she worked. It was very, very cool of her to do that, and awesome that Ellen stepped up to help her.
Scripted television continues to suffer as NBC cancelled "Ironside" and "Welcome To The Family" last week. What will Fox do to replace "Glee" which has announced this will be its final season?
Mary Steenbergen is taking up music (she actually signed a deal with a music company). Good for her.
Is having an accident and being badly injured the way to end an impending divorce? For Ashley Judd it might be.
Ted Cruz blames everyone but himself for the fiasco in Washington, D.C. that was the government shutdown. Look in the mirror for the problem, Mister Senator.
Did Bill Clinton really screen "The Apostle" at the White House with Robert Duvall and Farah Fawcett in attendance? Right after the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke? Yep.
Lionfish are invading? Well, at least the invasion is limited to the East Coast. So far.
So one of the moron Boy Scout leaders who pushed that rock over in the Goblin Valley National Park turns out to have filed a lawsuit last month, claiming injury and permanent disability from back injuries he suffered four years ago in an auto accident. Whoops. Bet you feel even dumber now than when your video first went viral.
How about we start tying CEO pay to the performance of the company and its stock? Then we can tie the big pay of major sports stars to their performance in the playoffs. If we were doing that, Prince Fielder would be giving the Detroit Tigers a big chunk of his $214 million contract back.
I won't watch new "Bones" episodes because they've gone way too far down the road of the Booth/Brennan relationship by marrying them to one another.
I realize it is October but looking at the weekend box office numbers makes it clear most of what's being released at this time of year just isn't going to do well. "Gravity" and "Captain Phillips" being the exceptions, holding onto the #1 and #2 spots they held last weekend.
* * *
This Date In History:
1548 – The city of Nuestra Señora de La Paz (Our Lady of Peace) is founded by Alonso de Mendoza by appointment of the king of Spain and Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V.
1572 – Relief of Goes, Cristóbal de Mondragón with 3000 soldiers of the Spanish Tercios, release the siege of the city.
1720 – Caribbean pirate Calico Jack is captured by the Royal Navy.
1740 – Maria Theresa takes the throne of Austria. France, Prussia, Bavaria and Saxony refuse to honour the Pragmatic Sanction and the War of the Austrian Succession begins.
1781 – Patent of Toleration, providing limited freedom of worship, is approved in Habsburg Monarchy.
1803 – The United States Senate ratifies the Louisiana Purchase.
1818 – The Convention of 1818 signed between the United States and the United Kingdom which, among other things, settled the Canada – United States border on the 49th parallel for most of its length.
1827 – Battle of Navarino – a combined Turkish and Egyptian armada is defeated by British, French, and Russian naval force in the port of Navarino in Pylos, Greece.
1873 – Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and Rutgers universities draft the first code of American football rules.
1883 – Peru and Chile sign the Treaty of Ancón, by which the Tarapacá province is ceded to the latter, bringing an end to Peru's involvement in the War of the Pacific.
1904 – Chile and Bolivia sign the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, delimiting the border between the two countries.
1910 – The hull of the RMS Olympic, sister-ship to the ill-fated RMS Titanic, is launched from the Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast, Northern Ireland.
1935 – The Long March ends.
1939 – Pope Pius XII publishes his first major encyclical entitled Summi Pontificatus.
1941 – World War II: Thousands of civilians in Kragujevac in German-occupied Serbia are killed in the Kragujevac massacre.
1943 – The cargo vessel Sinfra is attacked by Allied aircraft at Suda Bay, Crete, and sunk. 2,098 Italian prisoners of war drown with it.
1944 – The Soviet Army and Yugoslav Partisans liberate Belgrade, the capital of Yugoslavia
1944 – Liquid natural gas leaks from storage tanks in Cleveland, then explodes; the explosion and resulting fire level 30 blocks and kill 130.
1944 – General Douglas MacArthur fulfills his promise to return to the Philippines when he commands an Allied assault on the islands, reclaiming them from the Japanese during the Second World War.
1946 – Goverment of Democratic Republic of Vietnam decided that on 20/10 is Vietnam Women's Day
1947 – The House Un-American Activities Committee begins its investigation into Communist infiltration of Hollywood, resulting in a blacklist that prevents some from working in the industry for years.
1947 – United States of America and Pakistan establish diplomatic relations for the first time.
1951 – The "Johnny Bright Incident" occurs in Stillwater, Oklahoma
1952 – Governor Evelyn Baring declares a state of emergency in Kenya and begins arresting hundreds of suspected leaders of the Mau Mau Uprising, including Jomo Kenyatta, the future first President of Kenya.
1961 – The Soviet Union performs the first armed test of a submarine-launched ballistic missile, launching an R-13 from a Golf class submarine.
1962 – China launches simultaneous offensives in Ladakh and across the McMahon Line, beginning the Sino-Indian War.
1968 – Former First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy marries Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis.
1970 – Siad Barre declares Somalia a socialist state.
1971 – The Nepal Stock Exchange collapses.
1973 – "Saturday Night Massacre": President Richard Nixon fires U.S. Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus after they refuse to fire Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox, who is finally fired by Robert Bork.
1973 – The Sydney Opera House opens.
1976 – The ferry George Prince is struck by a ship while crossing the Mississippi River between Destrehan and Luling, Louisiana. Seventy-eight passengers and crew die and only 18 people aboard the ferry survive.
1977 – Lynyrd Skynyrd's plane crash.
1981 – Two police officers and an armored car guard are killed during an armed robbery in Rockland County, NY, carried out by members of the Black Liberation Army and Weather Underground.
1982 – During the UEFA Cup match between FC Spartak Moscow and HFC Haarlem, 66 people are crushed to death in the Luzhniki disaster.
1991 – The Oakland Hills firestorm kills 25 and destroys 3,469 homes and apartments, causing more than $2 billion in damage.
1991 – A 6.8 Mw earthquake strikes the Uttarkashi region of India, killing more than 1,000 people.
Famous Folk Born On This Date:
Christopher Wren
Timothy Ruggles
Bela Lugosi
Jelly Roll Morton
Arlene Francis
Art Buchwald (glad you won that lawsuit Mr. Buchwald)
Joyce Brothers
Mickey Mantle
William Christopher (I knew he was on M*A*S*H, but not that he was on Gomer Pyle, USMC)
Jerry Orbach
Robert Pinsky
Tom Petty
Al Greenwood
Melanie Mayron
Danny Boyle
Viggo Mortensen
Kamala Harris
William Zabka
Chavo Guerrero, Jr.
Michelle Malkin
Snoop Dogg
Dan Folger
John Krasinski
Movie quotes today come from the original "Karate Kid" movie because William Zabka was in it:
[they arrive at their new home]
Lucille Larusso: This is it. This is the end of the line.
Daniel: You're telling me.
#2
Daniel: Where am I, this ring over here?
Miyagi: Hai. Number three.
Daniel: What's that guy kneeling like that for?
Miyagi: Don't know.
Daniel: Don't you know anything you can tell me?
Miyagi: Hai. No get hit.
#3
[Daniel, Miyagi and Ali are trying to get onto the tournament floor together]
Official: Hold it!
Official: [to Ali] Sorry, teachers and students only.
Daniel: Oh, well, uh... he doesn't speak English and, uh, I can't understand his instructions without her. She's his, uh, translator.
Miyagi: [says something in Japanese]
Official: What did he say?
Ali: He says that, uh, you remind him of an uncle he has back in Tokyo.
Official: [smiles] I guess it's okay.
Miyagi: [says something in Japanese]
Official: What?
Ali: He says you're very kind.
Official: Thank you.
Miyagi: Welcome.
[Daniel ignores him]
Dutch: Hey, I'm talking to you punk!
[Dutch shoves Daniel and Daniel puts his guard up]
Dutch: Come on, make a move! Come on! Right now!
Referee: [coming in] Hey! Save it for the fight! Now get out!
Dutch: [to Daniel] Points or no points, you're dead meat.
Referee: I said out!
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